What car is way overhyped?

"AM" (ap18961) 05/18/2015 at 22:49 • Filed to: None

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Just like the title suggests, what car gets too much praise?

I’m going to sound like a hater right now but I have to nominate the Nissan GTR. I think it gets way too much attention when it really isn’t all that special (at least I don't think s0).

What do you think, what car is way too overhyped?’

MLGCarGuy > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:51

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Jag F-Type.

Jedidiah > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:52

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Miata

CB > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:52

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The Hellcat twins. Is it awesome that they have so much power? Yes. Does that make them the best cars in the world? No.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:53

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THESE FUCKERS RIGHT HERE.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:54

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Ever drive a gtr?Amazing for the price.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:58

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AM > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/18/2015 at 22:58

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Holy fuck, agreed.

SaveTheIntegras > AM 05/18/2015 at 22:58

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how dare you disrespect the GTR....

AM > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 05/18/2015 at 22:59

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You mean the price that is way higher than it should be? I’ve road in one but never driven.

AM > MLGCarGuy 05/18/2015 at 23:00

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I’m in love with the F-Type R. But yes it is very overhyped.

CB > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/18/2015 at 23:00

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According to the weather map, a shitstorm is bearing down on us. Category five. Batten down the hatches!

AM > CB 05/18/2015 at 23:00

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Agreed. They still don’t have that great of handling and they have a lot of trouble putting down the power at launch.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:01

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The GTR is up there. I love tromping them with 1/5th (maybe - on a good day) of the power in my AW11. Other than that.... I don’t know. (insert muscle car [Charger/Challenger Mustang Camero here)

Dsscats > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:01

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The GTR is special because it’s incredibly quick, and way faster than it’s price class.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:02

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NSX. Stop calling it a supercar. It was not.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Jedidiah 05/18/2015 at 23:02

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No. All the nopes. While there are cars that I like more, the Miata is really the ultimate all around sports car. If you don’t know how to drive, you’ll grow into it. If you’re good you’ll make it shine.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/18/2015 at 23:03

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No. More than all of the nopes.

Dsscats > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:03

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It goes 0-60 in under 3 seconds. For under $105k. Good luck getting that anywhere else with a warranty for that price.

Captain of the Enterprise > Jedidiah 05/18/2015 at 23:03

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It will never work for tall people like me and I've actually daily driven one for two weeks so I can give a real opinion.

AM > Dsscats 05/18/2015 at 23:06

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It starts at $108k here in Canada and that’s for a base model. I could get a Z06 that has a 0-60 time close to the GTR while still costing under $100k.

AM > Dsscats 05/18/2015 at 23:07

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But it’s all driver nannies and AWD that make it so fast. Plus, it’s ugly.

Captain of the Enterprise > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:08

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Super reliable and never needs repairs, how about no.

Mine has a collapsed seat

Needed new tie rods

Needed a new light switch

Had a broken window regulator

Wore out the sway bar bushings

Rusted through the a/c accumulator causing the a/c to lose all compressor oil and freon

Had two rims bend and crack

Had part of the ac control system brake (vaccuum failure from bad O rings)

And is now shifting hard

All to say nothing of regular maintenance (brakes, shocks, oil, batteries and bulbs)

The kicker it just hit 80,000 miles a couple weeks ago. To be fair it is a 2005 but is doesn't live up to its reputation.

AM > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 05/18/2015 at 23:08

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Agreed. It definitely wasn't a supercar.

AM > SaveTheIntegras 05/18/2015 at 23:12

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AM > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:14

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And the truth finally comes out! That’s a lot of problems.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:16

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A car that is designed for the track, that derates because it can’t take the track, yet still over heats after derating. I present to you the budget supercar that costs nearly as much as a GT3 once you give it options.

TheHondaBro > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 05/18/2015 at 23:22

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Considering it was more reliable than any Ferrari at the time and could keep pace with them on the track, I’d call it a supercar.

Captain of the Enterprise > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:23

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Yeah it is, it’s just like any other car, they all have problems and they all need repairs over time, it’s just been hyped up by people who have never owned or even driven one for a significant period of time or even at all.

Also bench seats= no lateral support= back injury and pain from cornering= not fun/painful to try to drive enthusiastically

Jedidiah > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:27

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My grandmother’s P71 throws a code that it is missing all the time. I replaced all the coil packs and sensors, the damn thing never misses.

My Excursion has a dead miss it yet it never throws a code, You’d think they use the same sensor technology on similar engines, but no.

I had temporarily bought a parts car for my grandma’s car that had been used in a movie. The parts car had bullet holes in it, was completely gutted, and had been jumped several times, but started and drove just fine.

Captain of the Enterprise > Jedidiah 05/18/2015 at 23:28

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Are you sure the code is for misfiring? Mine will through a code if I don’t tighten the fuel tank cap enough

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > TheHondaBro 05/18/2015 at 23:29

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I know their price points are disparate so its not a fair compairison, but an NSX in 1991 could not keep up with an F40 or a Diablo. It was simply a bargain performance car, or a really expensive sports car.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:30

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I guarantee you after 5 minutes of hard acceleration in the Z06, you’d understand why you pay more for the GTR.

AM > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:30

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Agreed. Also, I personally don't like bench seats; I prefer a comfy set of bucket seats for the support they offer.

TheHondaBro > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 05/18/2015 at 23:33

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Not a fair comparison. I’m talking about cars like the Testarossa and the F355. Also, the NSX shook the world with incredible technologies never before seen in even the most advanced road cars of the time.

Viggen > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/18/2015 at 23:34

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100% agreed. Especially the FiST/FoST.

AM > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/18/2015 at 23:35

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Fair enough. It looks and sounds better though and for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t be able to do that much hard acceleration anyway.

I could also get a 911 Turbo S which does 0-60 in 3 seconds flat if I really wanted good acceleration.

Jedidiah > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:36

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It’s definitely the code for missing. I’ve checked it multiple times. The computer in the thing is just plain dumb. After working for years on cars with miles of vacuum lines and worn out distributors, I can tell whether anything is missing and this car never misses.

These Panthers can be a mixed bag sometimes but I think they a good platform to maintain for a long time. However, they have an unnecessary amount of hype. I understand why people like them and that’s mainly because they’re the last of a breed and they have little refinements like a Watt’s linkage and rack and pinion steering that you won’t find on other big sedans. Other than that, the big full-frame sedan has been redundant throughout American history and the Crown Vic certainly doesn’t deserve the title for best full frame sedan.

Viggen > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:37

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GT-R
R32, R33, R34 Skyline GT-R

Mk. IV Supra

Hellcat twins

FiST/FoST

E46 M3

Captain of the Enterprise > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 05/18/2015 at 23:37

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Camaro not Camero

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:38

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...Missed the joke.

Captain of the Enterprise > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 05/18/2015 at 23:40

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Oh my bad, sorry

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:41

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The difference here is that pretty much anybody could use a GT-R on a back road. Trying stuff you can do in GT-R in a Z06 will send you in to a tree. You saw today how difficult even a V6 Camaro is to drive.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:47

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The GT-R was more impressive when it came out back in 2007. Now it’s just old and the price keeps rising.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Captain of the Enterprise 05/18/2015 at 23:49

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Type “camero” into teh craigslist.

AM > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/18/2015 at 23:52

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That’s what I think makes the GTR less special though. Rather than having to be take control of the car, the GTR just does everything for you which is kind of boring I find.

Captain of the Enterprise > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 05/18/2015 at 23:55

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The seller or future buyer

Axial > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/18/2015 at 23:56

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And that is why so many people were upset at the new Z06 being supercharged over the N/A mill in the previous one. The supercharged C6 ZR1 had the same problem and it appears that they did not adequately address it for the C7 Z06. More’s the pity, because this car should be a Porsche-slayer.

Axial > CB 05/18/2015 at 23:58

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The power isn’t what makes them, it’s the power-to-price ratio and the fact that it’s from frickin’ Dodge, of all places.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > AM 05/18/2015 at 23:58

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I’ve heard it both ways. I’ve heard it still is an awesome experience.

Axial > Dsscats 05/18/2015 at 23:58

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And way faster than its spec sheet would suggest.

Justin Hughes > AM 05/19/2015 at 00:04

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The answer is NOT always Miata.

That’s why I got a BRZ. I can’t live with a Miata as my only car. Little cargo space, and any convertible is not optimum in the snow belt.

Don’t get me wrong, I still love Miatas. I’ve owned three, and would own another one day - as a second car. Not as a daily driver.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Axial 05/19/2015 at 00:04

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To be fair, the LS7 did come with it’s own problems in the first year, like self destruction.

Axial > TheHondaBro 05/19/2015 at 00:07

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But not all Ferraris are supercars. Only the F40 was a supercar at the time, followed by the F50 and the Enzo during the NSX’s tenure. The NSX was basically the Honda answer to the Ferrari 348, a car decidedly not super.

Even the contemporary C4 ZR-1 soundly thrashes the NSX in performance. The NSX, like the standard 911 and the 348, is honestly more about the subjective qualities rather than the raw ability. They absolutely nailed them, and that’s what makes it so good.

GUYMANDUDE > AM 05/19/2015 at 00:07

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Veyron.

And every Lamborghini ever.

Axial > AM 05/19/2015 at 00:11

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This fuckin’ car:

Seriously, the only reason it keeps winning comparison tests is because it is “buttoned down” and can be “serious when needed.” I mean, what the fuck? The ST twins (which I’m also sick of hearing about, but less so because underdog status) drive better by pretty much all counts, and they keep giving this stale egg the trophy.

Fuckin’ fuck off, damnit!

AM > Axial 05/19/2015 at 00:15

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I hear ya, I’m so sick of hearing about the Golf and the ST twins.

Axial > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2015 at 00:15

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It came with that problem all the way up to 2011, but it was not a regular occurrence like overheating. I’m also more willing to forgive that because the LS7 is doing far crazier things than the LT4 in the C7 Z06...which doesn’t really deserve to be called an LT4 if you ask me.

AM > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 05/19/2015 at 00:15

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To tell the truth, I didn't even care for it when it came out.

AM > GUYMANDUDE 05/19/2015 at 00:16

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I can admire the Veyron for its insane power but it’s way too expensive and it’s hideous.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Axial 05/19/2015 at 00:18

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I wonder what the extra heft of the CTS will do to the LT4?

Supercharged-V8-Jag > AM 05/19/2015 at 00:23

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Nissan GTR and Tesla Model S.

Axial > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2015 at 00:23

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I’m actually going to wager that the CTS-V has a more robust cooling system. They figure “bigger car, more weight to play with” and so didn’t cut it as close to the wire.

That said, it’s weird to me that the Z06 is having this issue. There’s tons of room under the hood of a standard C7 Stingray for all manner of toys, and they could’ve used a different charging method with some form of cooler on either side of the block (B2K Callaway-style). I’d happily accept another 80 pounds of stuff to the car if it means not overheating.

AM > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 00:24

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The Model S is way overhyped isn’t it? Way too expensive for my blood.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > MLGCarGuy 05/19/2015 at 00:25

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NOOOOO. NOO. NO. JUST..... NO!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Axial 05/19/2015 at 00:28

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Or 150-250 pounds less and natural aspiration.

MLGCarGuy > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 00:28

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You can enjoy an F-Type in peace. But when you become Jonny Lieberman and giggle for no fricking reason, then I can’t enjoy the car as much anymore.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > AM 05/19/2015 at 00:29

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Super over hyped! I’ve driven one many times (including a D) and they are nice and all but really people.. really. It isn’t the future just yet and there is not ground breaking about it.

Axial > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2015 at 00:31

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They tried that but couldn’t meet emissions targets.

They should probably try for a physically smaller block with lower displacement and turbocharging. They don’t do that, though, because the block is subsidized by truck-bound variants. I’ve read that LT, which is an old RPO code, actually stands for “Light Truck,” which is kind of hilarious.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > MLGCarGuy 05/19/2015 at 00:36

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But when you become Jonny Lieberman and giggle for no fricking reason, then I can’t enjoy the car as much anymore.

Good.................................................point....

AM > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 00:36

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From what I’ve read they have been having a lot of stupid little problems as well such as messed up door handles, etc.

MLGCarGuy > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 00:38

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I watched the F-Type vs. SLK video and he started giggling at one point in the F-Type…this was funny because this was a V6 S.

With-a-G is back to not having anything written after his username > Captain of the Enterprise 05/19/2015 at 00:41

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I had already lost it at the “1/5” of an MR-2.

I’m no fan of the GTR, but reality is reality, and an MR-2 is an MR-2.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > MLGCarGuy 05/19/2015 at 00:49

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Which is the best of the three variants IMO.

MLGCarGuy > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 00:53

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Well they don’t offer a V8 S coupe or else I’d be all over that. The R is too overpowered (it slides everywhere) and the V6 S for some reason doesn’t strike me as a car I genuinely want.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > AM 05/19/2015 at 01:08

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I feel 99% of this thread is sour grapes.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > MLGCarGuy 05/19/2015 at 01:25

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And that’s why AWD will be standard on all future R models. I’ve driven a R Coupe in the past and it was indeed a bit harry.

Also have you seen a V6S in action before? Videos don’t do it justice at all. I’ve also driven the V6S and it’s just perfect: its more balanced and lighter on its feet in comparison to the R and is still stupid fast. I think it even sounds better as well. Forget the videos you watch online: the Jag V6 in person is extremely loud and amazing in person.

Rico > Supercharged-V8-Jag 05/19/2015 at 11:23

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I saw you wrote in a different post you think the V8 is too loud? How can it be too loud if it is so glorious?! To be fair most tuned V8s are loud like the AMG GT or the C63.

Rico > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2015 at 11:24

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Explain please

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Rico 05/19/2015 at 11:28

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The new Z06 has a problem with derating several pounds of boost and then overheating(which the derating is supposed to prevent), after a few minutes. The GTR does not have that problem.

Supercharged-V8-Jag > Rico 05/19/2015 at 14:29

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I think it’s just too much for something you could daily drive..